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Re: DAM approval wait time?



Russell Coker <russell@coker.com.au> writes:

> On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 10:36, Andrew Lau wrote:
> > On Oct 02, 2002 at 09:31:03 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> > > Some people are more important to the project than others.
> >
> > 	Perhaps some people have friends higher up in Debian? I have
> > an ugly email address that marks me as untouchable for after having
> > ever written something for Debian Planet? The universe loves screwing
> > me over? Who knows? I haven't gotten a reason from anyone yet.
> 
> There is some difference of opinion on the issue of whether some
> developers are more important than others.
> 
> My opinion is that some developers are more important, and Andrew I
> regard you as being more important than most because of the
> committment you have shown to the project and the quality of your
> Debianplanet work.

> However I don't think that less important people should have to wait
> excessive amounts of time or be excluded.  Even someone who
> maintains a single package can provide a benefit to the project as a
> whole if maintaining that package allows a developer who maintains
> many packages to be able to focus more on a smaller number of
> packages and do a better job!

This whole issue of being more/less important having any influence
whatsoever on the DAM approval is pure speculation, right? I have not
seen any compelling evidence of this, it looks more like a random
process to me, maybe biased by the non-approval of some applicants
whom the DAM disapproves of without openly rejecting them. Of course
this kind of speculation will carry on as long as all inquiries into
reasons for these long delays will be black-holed or just given the
standard answer of "The DAM is busy, please hold on". E.g., I waited
"only" 3 months for DAM approval, and I am certainly not that
important to the Debian project, whereas the current maintainer of
libqt3 is waiting for almost 5 months now. We have seen people
orphaning their packages over disappointment with the process, and I
don't think all blame should be put on them for being
impatient. (Fortunately, some people are being very patient and
continue contributing to Debian.) The rest of the AM process seems to
be well-documented and quite transparent, but I really don't know what
the DAM approval involves except reading the AM report. Will the DAM
check the applicants' packages, activity, google for the applicants'
traces in Usenet, WWW, BTS, Debian mailing lists or any combination of
this plus something more? It would be nice if this would be
documented, and not only speculated about.

Lukas



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