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Re: Editor Priorities

On Thu, May 09, 2002 at 04:34:56PM +0900, Tomohiro KUBOTA wrote:
> IMO, the difference is that "redo/undo support" is just for convenience
> but "CJK/bidi/Indic/combining" is mandatory for these people.  However,
> my proposal gave *less* score to CJK/bidi/Indic/combining (10) than
> "redo/undo" (20).  My proposal was so modest!  Why do you want to
> refuse even such a modest proposal?

Because you are undermining your own thesis.  Your position is that
CJK/bidi/Indic/combining support is mandatory if Debian is stop its
tradition of racist sin[1], and yet your own proposal doesn't even go very
far to accomplishing that goal.  The low score you attach to it amounts
to little more than using the alternatives mechanism as a forum for
editorializing about how we ought be good little boys and girls and not
disenfranchise the CJK/bidi/Indic/combining support community.

I do not think that the alternatives priority mechanism in Debian Policy
manual is an appropriate forum for that sort of editorializing.

The point of this thread, if I recall correctly, is to improve the
chances that a sysadmin -- regardless of his experience level with
Unix-style systems -- will have a editor with sufficient functionality
to carry out administrative tasks in a non-intimitdating way.  Frankly,
until most of the files in /etc can be written in Devanagari or
Japanese, I do not think a CJK/bidi/Indic/combining editor is very
important for this goal.  I agree that is is suboptimal that Debian
sysadmins who don't speak English have a river to cross when it comes to
/etc.  I don't think CJK/bidi/Indic/combining (10) is going to do
anything to help these people.

Individual admins can manually set the editor alternative to a package
that is appropriate for their users.  It is difficult for Debian to tell
what the typical installation environment for our OS is, but I'll bet
you individual workstations or servers administrated by people with a
sufficient command of "config file English" or better to get by covers
the majority.  I simply don't think it's reasonable to solve one problem
with tools designed for another.  Stop hammering i18n nails with the
handle of a screwdriver, please.

[1] BTW, if you'd lay off the inflammatory rhetoric it would help the
signal-to-noise ratio; thanks.

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