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Re: Bug#142818: Menu icon policy (Was: Bug#142818: xteddy: Icons missing from menu entries)



On Sun, 21 Apr 2002, Mark Purcell wrote:

> Sorry for the delay in replying. But I didn't receive your response directly
> (by default the BTS doesn't send followup messages to the bug submitter) .
Sorry, hope you get it directly now ...

> I'm running KDE. icewm also appears to need the full path specified.  fvwm
> (and variants) seem to pick up from the default location.
Fvwm and Gnome do so (if not I would have noticed).

> >      ...
> >      please put all icon files in the directory
> >      `/usr/X11R6/include/X11/{bitmaps,pixmaps}'
>
> It only states that that is where you should place them, it doesn't state
> anywhere that this is the default location for window managers to find them.
You are right and in my opinion this is a bug either in the menu package or
just Debian policy.  I would like it very much if you would spend some time
in reporting / clarifying this bug because I have hard time constraints
currently and I think we have to solve that.

> In fact it the menu documentation in it's only examples for icon specifies
> the full path every time. But you are correct it isn't clear:
Yes - only examples ...

> > ~> grep "icon" /usr/lib/menu/* 2>/dev/null | grep -v
> > /usr/X11R6/include/X11 | wc -l
> >      47
> > ~> grep "icon" /usr/lib/menu/* 2>/dev/null | grep /usr/X11R6/include/X11 |
> > wc -l
> >      19
>
> I think your maths is a little out. Have a look at exactly which files don't
> contain /usr/X11R6/include/X11.  On my system the -v case returns the
> following:
Uhmm, sorry if I do not have the time to browse this list.  I just piped it
through wc -l just to give you an idea.  I certainly was a little bit sloppy
while writing my grep pattern and I see now the evidence (it showes up all
my own packages - not only xteddy and
     /usr/lib/menu/pgaccess:	icon=pgaccess.xpm
     /usr/lib/menu/postgresql-client:	icon=postgresql.xpm
(Sorry - I will not file an additional bug report against pgaccess, as
 I have seen you just did it for postgresql-client.)

> As you can see most of those applications do specify a full path (but arn't
> located in the default location)
Just understand the problem.

> I guess my patch is just one way to solve the problem.
Well, I'll apply it and will also fix my other packages because this would
be the fast solution.

> Your alternatives are another way to solve the problem.
Perhaps something could be done to use a debhelper script which places
apropriate links into a default directory.  Just an idea ...

> Either way the bug should remain until the
> icons are displayed again. (transferred to an alternative package if
> necessary)
For sure.  I would not have closed the bug as long it exists.  But I hope
to fix the problem soon.

Kind regards

         Andreas.


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