On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 12:11:21PM -0800, Philip Brown wrote: > [ Miles Bader writes ] > > phil@bolthole.com (Philip Brown) writes: > > > As opposed to the current scheme, which also requires "annoying manual > > > editing of addresses" to reply to the list, if your mailreader does the > > > reasonable thing and assumes you want to reply to the original sender of > > > the message, in liu of a reply-to header. > > > > Only if you're using a MUA too old or disfunctional to be worth discussing. > > > > All reasonable mail readers support at least `reply to sender' and > > `followup'/`wide-reply' commands, and the latter should do what you want. > > I guess YOUR mailreader is "too old or disfunctional to be worth > discussing" > > I did not request you to Cc me. > But you replied to the list AND me. Some headers from your mail: : To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org : Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 12:11:21 -0800 (PST) : From: phil@bolthole.com (Philip Brown) : Reply-To: phil@bolthole.com Since you've set the "Reply-To:" header, wouldn't the reasonable person expect that you'd like a reply as well as the list? If that's not what you want, then set headers like "Mail-Copies-To: never" or "Mail-Followup-To:" with the appropriate address(es). Since this doesn't seem to be what you want I've omitted the Cc: in this case. > The issue is how to simplify a default action of > "reply to the list, and ONLY the list" We've already got that, thanks. > Presumably your own mailreader does not have a single key for > "reply to debian-devel, not to original sender" function, which is why you > chose the alternative of "reply to all". > Which is NOT desirable. > > > By making Reply-To: point to the list, you make these two different > > commands do the same thing, thus depriving the user of the choice. > > There is NO "depriving of choice". Phil, you miss the point. Please note that you set your "Reply-To:" header. Now please imagine a scenario where you can't control your "From:" address (you're at work possibly?): it's set to "phil@fascist.job.com" and you definitely DO NOT want replies to come to your work address (perhaps there's a fascist regime or something). So, you set your "Reply-To:" header to your favorite account: "phil@bolthole.com". Cool - now when people reply they'll be sending to the right address! Oh, but wait, that damn list you're subscribed to rewrites the "Reply-To:" header for its own purposes! Now you're going to get a bunch of email going exactly where you don't want it: you've been deprived of your right to set an email header. This has been discussed a million times. The debian- lists will not start setting "Reply-To:" just because you say they should. If you don't like that, that's life I guess. I personally hate subscribing to lists which do set "Reply-To:" but that doesn't give me the right to bitch about it for days on end wasting everyone's time. Have a nice day, -- Nathan Norman - Staff Engineer | A good plan today is better Micromuse Inc. | than a perfect plan tomorrow. mailto:nnorman@micromuse.com | -- Patton
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