Re: gtk, fonts, locales
On Thu, Oct 25, 2001 at 09:14:52AM +0100, Jules Bean wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 07:42:48PM -0400, Sean Middleditch wrote:
> > For starts, I'm working on trying to fix the Ugly Font Syndrome that
> > people complain about in Debian. I recently got bit by this problem
> > after a dist-upgrade on Sid.
>
> You probably have some old X component lying around. Either an old X
> server, or an old X font server. New versions have a work-around for
> this bug (see below).
Yes, I was told so. I am running 4.1.0-8, and seem to have removed all
other evil components (that I know of).
>
> > First, the locale for users doesn't seem to be set properly. THe locale
> > was C, even though it should have been en_US (iso8859-1). I found a
>
> Well, C is presumably the default.
Which is kinda bad, I would think. Perhaps I am mistaken on that one?
>
> > Finally, there is a bug in gtkhtml and it's default font selection.
> > Even with my locale set, it defaults to the iso10646 fontset. This is a
> > known bug in gtkhtml, and not necessary debian's responsibility to fix.
> > However, I am curious as to why I have an iso10646 fontset. It
> > definitely isn't a fontset I want, and don't use. Why is it installed?
>
> It should be a fontset you want. And you should use it. Unless you
> would rather not see the names of your email correspondents correctly
> rendered, or people's names on webpages, or occasional snippets of
> foreign languages. It's the way forward.
OK I'm not understanding then what iso10646 does? Why it is needed
over iso8859-1? It supports a larger character set?
>
> However, old applications expecting 8-bit encodings will break when
> they're unexpectedly given a 16-bit encoding. For this reason, the X
> server and the X font server have been hacked to return iso8859 before
> iso10646 when no font-set is requested specifically.
Yes, well, there are bugs in GTKHtml I am told that does the exact
opposite.
>
>
> > Should there perhaps be a different set of X font package for the
> > differnt locales (or at least geographic/cultural/linguistic regions) ?
> > I know that could get big, but I'm guessing thee is a big waste in disk
> > and download space for these? Or is the memory usage not that high for
> > each locale?
>
> There are different sets.
>
> But iso10646 is something we should all be using.
Ah, OK, Got it.
>
> As to the font size problem: perhaps you have the 100dpi fonts
> installed and you'd prefer the 75dpi fonts? They're "bigger".
Hmm, I was under the understanding that I could only use one or the
other, and that my setup would require the 100dpi?
>
> Jules
Thanks for clarifications. ^,^ I think I should stop working on that
kind of stuff that ltae at night.
Sean Etc.
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