Re: ddtp: new notifications mails, opt-in or opt-out?
On Sat, Oct 06, 2001 at 09:20:27AM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote:
> >>>>> "Jochen" == Jochen Voss <email@example.com> writes:
> Jochen> On Sat, Oct 06, 2001 at 02:53:17PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman
> Jochen> wrote:
> >> Browse the archives and count the number of people who were in
> >> favour of opt-in or no messages at all and compare that with
> >> the other people people who were in favour of opt-in.
> Jochen> I did not perceive this as a "consensus". What numbers
> Jochen> did you get?
> If you're counting numbers and talking about a consensus you are doing
> something wrong. A consensus for opt-out would mean there were no
> significant objections, or in some contexts no credible objections. I
> cannot help you if you believe that people didn't yell loud enough
> that to count as a significant objection (and note that one or two
> people who really disagree with something can count as a significant
> objection for consensus based processes). I believe the bulk
> unsolicited mail argument is a credible objection; a reasonable
> definition of bulk unsolicited mail has been presented on debian-vote
> and an argument that opt-out mails fall under this definition has also
> been presented.
This is a very nice and argumented message, but it is senseless, Jochen
never told there was a consensus in favor of opt-out.
Could you please now do the same with the one we are talking about,
i.e. Wichert's assertion that there was a consensus in favor of opt-in?