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Re: new port: and the winner is....

I agree totaly with you..

Manuel Segura

"Richard B. Kreckel" a écrit :
> Hi,
> On Thu, 30 Aug 2001, A Mennucc1 wrote:
> [...]
> >  -----why is the 'win' port important?
> [...]
> (Sorry for dropping in late to this thread, I was too busy lately to
> follow debian-devel tightly.)
> The social contract says "Our Priorities are Our Users and Free Software".
> Such a win-port might indeed serve some users.  But for my own part, I do
> have some personal problems with making all free software win-compatible.
> Does it serve Free Software?  Such ports frequently lead to crippled
> design [1] and frankly, I do not like to give people more excuses for not
> switching to an entirely free OS.
> The one argument I am missing from the discussion is this: The porters
> find some problem with package foo and file a bugreport (most probably
> critical) to the maintainer of foo who has to look into the problem,
> withdrawing time for more important things than a weird port.  It has
> happened before [2] and it will happen again.  We really shouldn't invite
> everything into Debian.  It will distract us from providing a really
> useful free OS.
> For my own part, the mere thought of receiving reports like "package bar
> doesn't build on win" gives me the creeps.  I would have to log in to one
> of those crippled machines, try to fix scripts, makefiles, code, whatnot.
> Ugh.
> Instead, I would consider downgrading the bugreport to wishlist/wontfix.
> Regards
>      -richy.
> [1] Why does Apache have to abstract away their threads?  Right, because
>     Winsux doesn't have pthreads.  Admittedly, this might be a little
>     off-topic because that is for a native port, but that's the basic
>     pattern.
> [2] Look at the parisc port: GCC-3.0 is not even officially supported
>     upstream and the entire toolchain seems to be changing frequently.
>     Some packages build one day but not the next.  I wonder how they
>     want to release that stuff.
> --
>   .''`.  Richard B. Kreckel
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Manuel Segura

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