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Re: Who is a Debian user?



On Sat, 25 Aug 2001, Claes Andersson wrote:
.......
> Let me tell me what I do for a living. I am not an administrator. I am a 
> user. I do not have the root password. I develop business software in Java 
> under Windows NT, and this involves a lot of distributed programming. Our 
> program communicates with other programs on the intranets at different 
> customer sites or across the internet between our customers and their 
> partners. When our customers experience communication problems with our 
> software, they contact support, and if support is not able to help them, 
> they often come to me. And I try to help them, on the phone usually. Ask 
> them to try this and try that. Often I ask them to run ipconfig (ifconfig in 
> Linux) or tracert (traceroute in Linux). With the information they give me I 
> can usually help them. Neither of us are superusers. Still, I see a need for 
> both me and the users that call me to occasionally to run these commands. To 
> me this PROVES that diagnostic network commands are useful for even the most 
> common users. And in this case, I am sorry to say, I am glad they use NT. It 
> makes my life easier. I can help them faster and go back to coding faster. 
> But it also makes me sad, because why should such a thing be easier in 
> Windows than in Debian? It is so easy to change. The attitude against users 
> is the only difference.

I am totally confused.  What is that you are complaining about?
I can run ifconfig and traceroute as a normal user.
/sbin/ifconfig
/usr/sbin/traceroute  <- it may not be installed by default

BTW, I use Debian to do cross-development of an sh4-embedded
system.

Bao



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