Re: deity@lists.debian.org and deity-digest@lists.debian.org
Probably you should ask listmaster@lists.debian.org
Cheers,
On Tue, Aug 14, 2001 at 11:47:30PM +0200, Admar Schoonen wrote:
> [since I've never really introduced myself to this list, but only send a few
> short messages, I'll do so now - the introduction will slowly change to the
> maintopic of this message]
>
> My name is Admar Schoonen and I am a 21 years old student electrotechnology at
> Eindhoven, University of Technology, The Netherlands. I'm a Debian GNU/Linux
> user since december 1999 and I use it on my laptop and on the computers at
> home. I'm trying to do as much of my study on Debian, instead of Windows.
> Since I only have a 56kbit/s dailup-line (pay per minute) to update the
> computers at home and since I can update my laptop at 10Mbit/s for free at
> university, I was looking for a way to build a tiny Debian mirror on my laptop,
> carry it home, and update the computers from my laptop. I've tried several
> (combinations of) programs, but none did what I had in mind (although apt-move
> came close). Therefore, I've written my own program (demish), it's available
> from
> deb ftp://donald-duck.ele.tue.nl/debian testing main
> >From it's description:
> demish builds a mirror, containing only those packages (and optionally their
> dependencies) that the maintainer wants, and thus gives him (almost) full
> control over the size of the mirror. It is useful if you have a fast internet
> connection at work/school and a laptop or a cdwriter: just make a mirror on the
> laptop or cd, and update your computers at home
> The current (stable) version (0.2.3) is working ok (I guess), since I haven't
> had any bugreports (not that I think that I have many users though ;-)
> Currently, I'm working on 0.3.0, which should have more features and at least be
> an order of magnitude faster.
>
> Since demish depends heavily on dpkg and apt, I want to be notified of
> (important) changes to those programs (changes which could possibly break
> demish) and it would be nice if I could post my questions/troubles with those
> programs somewhere and receive some help. Therefore, I am subscribed to
> debian-dpkg@l.d.o. I also would like to be subscribed to deity@l.d.o (deity is
> an other name of APT, AFAIK), however, I'm not allowed to be subscribed to that
> list since I'm not a deity developer. That's why I've subscribed myself to
> deity-digest@l.d.o since March, 3rd this year - little information is better
> than none, ain't it?
>
> I've posted a few questions about apt on deity@l.d.o since March this year
> (posting is allowed, reading not - reaction should be posted on deity-digest or
> to the poster directly, I believe). I've only once received an anwer though
> (the answer was mailed to me directly, perhaps the answers to the other
> questions are in the deity-digest now, I haven't fully read it - see below why).
>
> The deity-digest-list has been quiet since March (perhaps even longer), upon
> today, August, 14th. Today, I've received the complete (15.5MB large)
> deity@l.d.o archive since 5 Feb 1999 on deity-digest@l.d.o. It are 286
> messages which are about 50K each (each message is a compilation of messages)
> (well actually, the number of messages is slightly less than 286, since I've
> received some messages twice because I've interrupted fetchmail to see what was
> going on). It took me about 40 minutes to get my e-mail over a 56Kbit/s line.
> That wasn't fun.
>
> Although outsiders aren't allowed to read deity@l.d.o directly, the complete
> e-mail archive of that list appears to be available on the web (see l.d.o)
> (haven't checked much into it though). Because of this weird situation, and
> because I've received 2.5 years of deity-discussions today, I'm writing this
> message.
>
> Now, could somebody please tell me:
> * why deity@l.d.o cannot be read directly (ie, subscribed to) by
> non-deity-developers?
> * why posting on deity@l.d.o is/appears to be allowed, although subscription
> is prohibided?
> * why the complete archive of deity@l.d.o is availble via http on l.d.o,
> although deity@l.d.o cannot be read (ie, subscribed to) directly?
> * why deity-digest is silent for about 6 months (or longer?) and then spawns
> about 280 messages, total size of about 15MB containing the (full?) archive of
> deity@l.d.o?
> * who would be interested in deity-digest@l.d.o if it sends e-mail only once or
> twice per year (or perhaps even less frequent) and if it is then working in
> 'batch-mode', sending 15MB of e-mail to everybody who is subscribed?
> * could this situation be improved, so that I (and probably other
> non-deity-developers) can be informed sooner and in an other way of what is
> going to happen to future releases of apt? (ie, not having to wait 6 months
> or longer and not receiving a 15MB mail-archive of the past 2.5 years)
>
> Thanks.
>
> Admar Schoonen
>
>
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