Re: real LSB compliance
>>"Theodore" == Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu> writes:
Theodore> On Tue, Jul 03, 2001 at 11:34:51PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>>
>> You shall certainly get some volunteers, but only if things
>> are still fixable (anything written in stone does not sound very
>> enticing).
Theodore> Stuff isn't written in stone, but making changes is (truth to tell)
Theodore> much harder than it was four weeks ago, since the whole point in
Theodore> having a standard is maintaining compatibility. So the bar for
Theodore> justifying changes has been rasied, but if there are sound technical
Theodore> reasons (as opposed to individual Debian users throwing temper
Theodore> tantrums), changes *can* be made.
Theodore> One thing which is somewhat personally frustrating in terms
Theodore> of LSB and working with Debian is that it's hard to find
Theodore> anyone who can actually speak for Debian in any kind of
Theodore> binding way. So suppose we get some volunteers, and they
Theodore> help out with the LSB, and we come up with a released LSB
Theodore> 1.1 --- is that going to be any different from the
Theodore> situation we have now?
If you do things the same old way, I am quite certain things
will not be any different. However, there are ways of working with
Debian -- firstly, one can send a message to debian-policy and
debian-devel when the LSB is entering a review process. One can find
a volunteer to feed major proposed changes to the LSB to -policy and
-devel for comment.
You need to realize that Debian is indeed different, and it is
unlikely to get a subset of people that can ``represent'' Debian in
something as far reaching as the LSB directives seem to be. Even your
example of the government was not on the mark, since we have not had
a fully participatory democratic government since the Greek city
states.
If the LSB is interested in Debian ratification, it must need
make an effort to engage the whole project, not just get a few people
who also happen to be Debian developers,
Of course the LSB project may decide this is too onerous a
task, and then we are left with the status Quo.
manoj
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Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@debian.org> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/>
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