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Re: ITP: squeak-vm, squeak-image, squeak-sources -- A highly portable Smaltalk system



wouter@debian.org wrote:

> On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Peter S Galbraith wrote:
> 
> > > > Btw, this license is unacceptable for at least one point: "here the
> > > > Licensee is located in the province of Quebec, Canada, the following
> > > > clause applies: The parties hereto confirm that they have requested
> > > > that this Agreement and all related documents be drafted in English.
> > > > Les parties ont exigé que le présent contrat et tous les
> > > > documents connexes soient redigés en anglais."
> > > > 
> > > > In Québec, there happens to be a law which permit Quebecers to
> > > > require an official document to be in French.
> 
> <snip>
> 
> > > It's completely unacceptable that anyone requires you to talk a certain
> > > language to be able to do something. 
> > 
> > What does this license have to do with that?  They are simply
> > saying they are not translating it.
> 
> Then why say that?

I don't really know (IANAL).  Perhaps the authors distributed it
once to someone in Québec who requested a french version;
instead of translating the license, they could have added that
paragraph.  Perhaps they think that it's needed in order to be
legal here.  Or perhaps they are playing politics too, thumbing
their noses at Québec's language laws.  I really couldn't say.
 
> To me, this looks like "If you speak French, I don't deal with you".

To me it's more like: you can use this software if you want to,
but don't come crying because the license and docs aren't
translated free of charge for you (which I guess Québec laws
could allow someone to do, if the software is sold).

> The license writer clearly knows how to write French, right?

It's a lot easier to write an sentence in french than to
translate that license!

> Anyway; a closer look shows that I may have overreacted a little bit
> indeed. I suggest we let go ;-)

Sure.

I missed the beginning of the thread.  Strange that the web site
clearly says it's open source.  Are the fonts required for the
software to be useful (i.e. can it be considered open source
looking at the source code alone?  Or is it useless without the
fonts?) 

Peter



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