Re: xmms-vorbis install problems on woody
Thanks Josip,
I must admit, you got me worried about my mental health :) I feel much
better now. Looks like apt-get and/or the packager need some medical
assistance :)
Cheers,
Cristian
On Sun, 3 Dec 2000, Josip Rodin wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 03, 2000 at 06:24:08PM +0100, Cristian Ionescu-Idbohrn wrote:
> > > > Is it only me? Does anybody else sees this weirdness?
> > >
> > > Why is this weird? One package obsoleted another. Try reading the latest
> > > changelog entry for xmms.
> >
> > Obsoleted. Is that the meaning of this line?
> >
> > xmms-vorbis: Depends: xmms but it is not going to be installed
>
> That's APT's way of telling you the same :)
>
> > Do you refer to this, in xmms (1.2.4-1)
> > /usr/share/doc/xmms/changelog.Debian.gz
> >
> > * Added libogg0-dev and libvorbis0-dev to Build-Depends: because of the
> > new plugin. Added Conflicts: and Replaces: on xmms-vorbis, too.
> >
> > I might just gone stupid lately, but it is unclear to me what that
> > means. So I'll just go on being stupid and ask another stupid question:
> >
> > Did xmms-vorbis ceased to exist? That is, xmms-vorbis is no more?
> > xmms-vorbis is a former package? In thet case, why doesn't it say so?
>
> xmms-vorbis needs to be removed from the archive, that's all. I've already
> filed a bug report to get that done.
>
> > If it still exists and conflicts with xmms, why doesn't it suggest
> > removing xmms, as installing xmms removed xmms-vorbis?
>
> This is different -- they don't conflict, xmms obsoletes xmms-vorbis.
> When a package uses _both_ Conflicts and Replaces on another package, the
> other package gets removed before installing. See Debian Packaging Manual,
> section 8.3 "Alternative binary packages - Conflicts and Replaces".
>
> > My opinion is that the message:
> >
> > "xmms-vorbis: Depends: xmms but it is not going to be installed"
> >
> > is plain stupid. I don't know what it might be meant to say, and I'm
> > trying very hard to understand it's meaning.
>
> It means "xmms-vorbis depends on xmms to get installed, but xmms won't get
> installed". The problem is that it doesn't tell you the reason for the
> latter.
>
> > "... but it is not going to be installed" What? xmms or xmms-vorbis?
>
> xmms.
>
> > xmms is already installed, so that leaves xmms-vorbis as the candidate
> > to not being installed. Note: I used the deductive part of my brain,
> > all by myself, to do this analysis 8).
>
> That's apt-get for you -- it has its own viewpoint, which is rather
> different than the one simple for the user to understand. <sigh>
>
> I had already filed a bug to get this wording changed, and Jason closed it
> saying it can't be improved...
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