Re: Clarifications
On Sun, Jun 11, 2000 at 01:49:39AM -0400, James LewisMoss wrote:
> >>>>> On Sat, 10 Jun 2000 15:21:27 -0500, David Starner <dvdeug@x8b4e53cd.dhcp.okstate.edu> said:
>
> David> You seem to deny that this is a major change, which apparenly
> David> means you haven't been reading anything the other people
> David> say. I find your position reprehesible - instead of leading by
> David> example and removing your non-free packages from distribution
> David> and trying to convince others to do the same, you would try
> David> changing the rules to get your way. You then deny that your
> David> change would have consequences and use double-talk - "it is no
> David> more than miscellany", 'non-free packages could still use the
> David> BTS' (paraphrase) - to convince people.
>
> This is uncalled for. Attacking someone and calling them dishonest is
> not a good way to make anyone else actually listen to your arguments.
> I certainly won't read any more of your posts.
I tried to stay on the side of attacking his actions, rather than attacking
him. If I failed, then I'm sorry. But if the actions are dishonest, I see no
reason to avoid saying that. I still sincerly feel that
* he went about this the wrong way - trying for a de juro solution instead
of a de facto solution,
* he is on morally shaky ground, trying to prohibit an action he is currently
commiting,
* he is denying the consequences of this action, and
* he doesn't seem to be paying attention to what the other side is saying.
In retrospect, double-talk was probably unfair. The rest of it may
be harsh, but if I can't say "I think what you're doing is morally wrong",
why did you not complain when he said 'I think uploading non-free packages
to Debian is morally wrong'[0]?
[0] Not an exact quote; "it's [killing non-free on Debian's servers] the
right thing to do, morally.", the last point of his resolution, is.
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see her again." - Sluggy Freelance
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