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Re: General Resolution: Removing non-free

on 6/7/00 7:45 PM, John Goerzen at jgoerzen@complete.org wrote:

> Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@debian.org> writes:
>> I don't give a damn about the rest of the darned marketplace.
> Same here.
>> I give a darn about making Debian a viable choice for more people, in
>> the hopes that then they can be, umm, educated about free software.
> Debian does not include non-free now.  Are you implying that not
> including non-free now makes it

Yes but it is on the FTP site.  The day I connect my machine to Debian's
website in order to upgrade and check out new packages using dselect and it
want's to remove half my system because my non-free packages are no longer
listed in Packages.gz, and no I'm sure this doesn't always happen, but I can
be a witness ... it does happen frequently... is the day I toss that CD in
the trash.  Secondly as the best and only major alternative to RedHat (upon
which many distros are based), I feel that Debian has a minor moral
obligation to provide a functional version of the os either on CD's or on
its ftp site.  It's bad enough that I have to download communicator and that
unless you buy Corel or Stormix (which are not Debian), you don't get this
out of the box.  Corel and Stormix are good for what they try to do but they
have maddening problems in the way they have tweaked a tired version of
Slink rather than going with Potato.

On the note that Mozilla is a substitute ("black and white") for netscape...
end of subject... well Mozilla sucks a**.  What if Netscape had never
released the mozilla project?  Would you be recommending Mosaic still?

Has anyone considered the implications for those users upgrading their
system beyond woody?


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