On Fri, May 26, 2000 at 03:12:21AM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote: > On Fri, May 26, 2000 at 02:34:27AM -0400, Mike Bilow wrote: > > I think the absolute first step is to announce some kind of long term > > plan. http://ftp-master.debian.org/~ajt/ > > I would support trying anything: package pools, shorter release cycles, > > whatever there is a consensus behind. http://ftp-master.debian.org/~ajt/ > > I think shorter release cycles > > would be easier to try, frankly, than package pools. http://ftp-master.debian.org/~ajt/ > My concept of a package pool was pretty simple.. A stable release just as > we have now, a release-candidate much like frozen is now, and an unstable > pool. As packages (rather than distributions) become stable, they're > marked for addition to the release-candidate tree. when their > dependencies are satisfied (which is the issue - dinstall currently cannot > do this and so doing is not a trivial modification), the package can be > moved into the pre-release group. http://auric.debian.org/~ajt/ (just to be different) > This allows for the three kinds of users Debian has: > 2. those wanting new software, able to handle minor fuckups (pre-release) deb http://ftp-master.debian.org/~ajt/ testing main > Extending apt and other tools this way would be nifty, but it'd be one > hell of a job for whomever was writing it. (It'd be damned cool when > finished though!) Still, even leaving all of this out of the picture, the > mods to dinstall that are required aren't likely to happen. http://ftp-master.debian.org/~ajt/ > > Look, I don't think the fundamental problem with the release cycles is > > technical; rather, I think it is that no one is told the plan. If people > > are given a general idea of what to expect over the course of about six > > months, then they can deal with this. http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-devel-9903/msg00343.html (again, for some variety) > As soon as freeze finally happens, new bug reports are pouring in > literally by the hundreds http://www.debian.org/Bugs/db/64/64437.html (the reader will need to work out some implications for emself) > Do you really think it will be different this time? http://ftp-master.debian.org/~ajt/ > (not that anyone listens to me anyway, but still..) Cheers, aj, resorting to cheap rhetorical tricks -- Anthony Towns <aj@humbug.org.au> <http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/> I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG encrypted mail preferred. ``We reject: kings, presidents, and voting. We believe in: rough consensus and working code.'' -- Dave Clark
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