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Re: INN packages



On Sat, 15 January 2000 20:54:52 -0700, Bdale Garbee wrote:
> > I don't think INN 2.x can be useful for a non-toy server until 2.3 is 
> > released with the new history backends and the new overview code.
> 
> I think your attitude towards users of the Debian INN package (calling some
> of them "lusers", and copping such a big attitude towards what you perceive
> as "toy servers") really stinks.

So who cares? Marco is right in saying that your packing INN
2.x gives headaches and non- working news setups for many. I
was (and still am) following INN development closely, I have
several 2.x servers running, even bloody-edge 2.3-CVS versions,
but the first thing I had to do was putting the package on hold
on all the debian boxes. The latest 1.7.2 NMUs had some breakage
in them, too... *sigh*

Not a single word before. ;-(

Especially with INN 2.x you can rebuild your history not
just like you did before. And it takes hours and hours, it
involves time and trouble and quite a lot wish they have
never selected INN.

Sorry, but the current INN just works and it works nicely.
Nobody in his right mind would use the INN 1.7.2 Debian INN
for more than 20 concurrent users. So all those not-so-advanced
users (to put it nicely) have troubles.

> It strongly tempted me to just ignore your
> message, Marco.  I would like to think we can have a reasonable technical 
> discussion without needing to inject so much attitude?

Oh, please ignore us all. Have all fun you need. *sigh*

> I think you are confusing "stable" with something else.  I believe that
> INN 2.2.2 is stable.  The ISC web pages certainly treat it as the current

Web pages... argh. Read nsn. Read inn-bugs,inn-workers,inn-committers
and then we talk again.

It does not matter at all if 2.2 is stable, 1.7.2 works
nicely enough and the upgrade path sux if you do not know
quite exactly what you are doing. Been there... several
times.

> but I really do not
> think that 2.2.2 as I have packaged it is a worse choice than 1.7.2 for the
> typical user of the Debian INN package.

I won't doubt it. But that's not the point.
Bad luck, methinks.

Alexander,
being in the news business too damn long

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