Re: Feaping Creature-ism in core Debian Packages
Another issue that needs to be addressed here is that Perl has become a VERY
standard part of ANY UNIX type OS. Because of that, Perl SHOULD become a part
of base in my opinion(if it isn't already). What isn't needed is all the 2000
Perl modules that are available. Unfortunately, this addition of Perl would
increase the size of the base, and make the number of floppies required for a
base install to grow. To fight the need for floppies, I wonder if we can set up
a 2 disk version of "base" which would let us connect via ethernet or ppp to
finish the rest of base for those without the CD. People are already
complaining about 9 floppies needed for the base install, think what they will
do with a 13 floppy base ;)
Dave Bristel
On Tue, 31 Aug 1999, Joey Hess wrote:
> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:52:28 -0700
> From: Joey Hess <joey@kitenet.net>
> To: Dale Scheetz <dwarf@polaris.net>
> Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Feaping Creature-ism in core Debian Packages
> Resent-Date: 31 Aug 1999 18:50:03 -0000
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> Dale Scheetz wrote:
> > Well, I _do_ have perl installed, and here is the build.log from my
> > attempt:
>
> Ok, it needs perl-5.005 for it's regression test.
>
> I'm not going to respond to the rest, because I have long ago anwsered every
> complaint you have. Some by ignoring them, and some by adding things like
> --verbose to debhelper. It was all discussed two years ago, and I don't see
> any need to discuss it again.
>
> You're welcome to write a tool you like better. I don't think you have much
> business trying to tell other what tool to use though.
>
> > My point about perl is that when you integrate more dependencies into the
> > installation process you automatically create more points of failure.
> > Allowing the infiltration of perl into installation proceedures
> > unnecessarily complexifies the process with very little gain, outside
> > allowing perl programmers to ply their trade. The fact that the upstream
> > maintainers of perl have shown historic willingness to break interfaces in
> > order to "improve" perl, suggests that such occurances will happen in the
> > future, with unknown ramifications.
>
> So have the upstream maintainers of the linux kernel. I don't see anything
> here but a bunch of anti-perl sentiment.
>
> --
> see shy jo
>
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