Re: itp: static bins / resolving static debian issues
I mentioned this in a message to someone else, but since you've made
a patch to sash, I thought I would mention it again to make sure
you saw it.
For complete invisibility, you also need to ensure that the '-c' option
attempts to execute commands using /bin/sh rather than sash itself. This
is so that if someone does a:
ssh root@debian-system "...bash-isms..."
it'll work as expected. In this case ssh (and rsh, and several other
programs) will use the '-c' option of your declared shell to execute
the command. So if sash's -c option uses /bin/sh, things will be fine.
Justin
On Mon, Aug 23, 1999 at 09:15:16AM -0700, Nathaniel Smith wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 23, 1999 at 06:50:08AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
> > On Sun, Aug 22, 1999 at 08:08:41PM -0700, Nathaniel Smith wrote:
> > > far as I can tell, you don't understand what it is that we're doing. I
> > > have never argued that we should change the default; in fact, I wrote
> > > code so that it would be possible to set things up so that as far as the
> > > end user was concerned, there was no difference at all -- root's shell
> > > would still appear to be bash -- until something went wrong, and suddenly,
> > > lo and behold, root would still have a shell. Secondly, I never said that
> >
> > Hello! You don't see that adding this piece of code you're pushing for
> > will change things? Perhaps you all would get a better response if you'd
> > agree to add your stuff as an optional package, let people try it for a
> > few months (at least a release cycle) to see if it works and if it's
> > useful, and _then_ argue that it should be the default...
>
> Perhaps you should quote the next line of my message:
> "Secondly, I never said that a static binary package should be of Required
> priority."
> I don't _think_ that we should just stick this in as a default package and
> see if it works. Of _course_ we would test something (something designed
> with the express purpose of increasing reliability) before making it the
> default. I think you must be confusing me with someone else.
>
> Oh, and by "change things", I meant in a user visible way -- ie,
> installing this package makes absolutely no difference in how you use the
> machine, your memory usage, etc., except for a bit of hard drive space (well,
> my patch would put an extra 300k in memory for a few seconds every time
> root logged in... which is negligible, and still optional). Personally, I'm
> still trying to figure out how to implement this technically; once we have
> something that works and is good we can argue about the politics.
>
> -- Nathaniel
>
>
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