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Re: itp: static bins / resolving static debian issues



* Steve Lamb said:

> > You need to get a root shell WITHOUT a reboot. So you need roots 
> > shell to be static, and you need a static su, and a static sulogin.
> 
>     Because if you were so concerned about data integrity that you would not
> leave a known crippled server in place where unforeseen complications could
> cause data corruption.
Come on. You put up a brand new machine with a shiny, new Debian
installation on it. Suddenly your 2GB SCSI drive fails for some reason. The
system was brand new, was it a "known crippled server"? You're root
partition on the broken disk is damaged, but your other disk which has /usr
and /var/www on it still works. What you have to do? Hotswap the broken disk
and copy a backup of the root dir and do it all without downing a server.
With statics it's possible.
 
>     Because if you were so concerned about the service's uptime you would be
> operating in a redundant architecture so that the loss of a single machine
> would not bring down the service.
Yeah, give me those hundreds of thousands of bucks and I'll do it.

>     One has to ask, BTW, how new httpds are being loaded if the machine is so
> fucked that you can't even login or work without static binaries?  Oh, wait,
> you'd have them all statically linked as well.  I get it now.
One has to know more than one httpd around, boy. roxen doesn't fork new
bins, use roxen if you're concerned.
 
>     Until you can convince me of a situation where that is otherwise, your
> entire argument is bunk.
What is the reason to convince you?

marek

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