Re: how to make Debian less fragile (long and philosophical)
Those are extreme cases, yes. But in general I do want to be able to
fix my systems without having to reboot, and I would like to be able
to use Debian.
Here's the point: Other OS's do cater to me, and they do provide me
with the kinds of guarantees I need and expect. There may be some
tweaking I have to do to make myself happy with them--but the less
work I have to do to make the system reliable, and the more I believe
it is a primary goal of the people who built the OS, the happier I
am going to be.
Debian has an opportunity to become an important OS for highly reliable
systems. The package manager is smarter than most peoples, and it really
is impressive to watch Debian upgrade everything under the sun without
knocking down X.
In my view, all it needs now is a little more reliability.
If you want to use Debian only on your desktop--fine. That's not why
I run Unix systems. I run them on my desktop too, but I and most people
I know earn a living by putting software on them and turning them
into servers.
Justin
On Tue, Aug 17, 1999 at 01:00:14PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Tuesday, August 17, 1999, 12:49:02 PM, Justin wrote:
>
> > Why should I bring my httpd down? Why should I bring my named down? Why
> > should I bring my database down? Why should I bring anything down?
>
> > What if I am a web retailer and this is my biggest day of the year, and
> > every half hour of traffic counts for about 1% of my annual sales?
>
> Then you'd best have a SysAdmin that makes the system as robust as you
> need it. That is the SysAdmin's job.
>
> > I know of at least one company where this is true--30% of their business
> > comes on one day of the year, and 50% of that is via the web, in a 16
> > hour period they get 15% of their annual business through their web
> > server--you better believe they want it to stay operational, even
> > through various kinds of failures. Having enough static tools lying
> > around to keep the thing limping for another fifteen minutes may buy
> > me the time to effect a switchover to some other machine, and copy
> > the all important last couple of hours worth of orders to a tape.
>
> Then it is up to them. They are a special case. Are you really
> advocating that Debian cater to special cases to the detriment of the majority
> when tools are provided for them to do it themsleves?
>
>
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