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Re: An 'ae' testimony

On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 03:09:02PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
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> On Fri, 21 May 1999 14:57:26 -0700, Joseph Carter wrote:
> >Maybe joe or something?  The standard joe package is way too big and
> >someone would almost certainly have to come up with a joe-tiny package or
> >something, but it'd at least work---compared to ae which does not!
>     Well...
> {morpheus@teleute:~} ls -l `which ae`
> - -rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root        23548 Oct 30  1998 /bin/ae
> {morpheus@teleute:~} ls -l `which joe`
> - -rwxr-xr-x   5 root     root       174020 Dec 10 13:19 /usr/bin/joe
> {morpheus@teleute:~} ldd `which joe`
>         libncurses.so.4 => /lib/libncurses.so.4 (0x4000e000)
>         libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x4004e000)
>         /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x40000000)
> {morpheus@teleute:~} ldd `which ae`
>         libslang.so.1 => /lib/libslang.so.1 (0x4000e000)
>         libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40055000)
>         libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x400fa000)
>         /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x40000000)
>    ...joe is bigger than ae, but ae uses slang (does something else use
> slang?) so the sizes might offset each other in that regard.  All joe needs
> to be quite functional (which is why I like it so) is just the executable,
> the libraries, and a joerc.
>     Joe might also be a good option because of its wordstar-esque keys.  DOS
> Edit has some convergence with joe on thse key bindings.  IE, CNTL-Y is
> delete line in both, etc.  It isn't perfect, but at least joe does tell
> people that ^KH is help.  Hell, we can enable the following line in the rc
> file and they'll get help all the time.

huh ?

after the emacs vs. vi flamewar, you want to start a unix still editor (vi or
emacs) vs. microsoft still key binding thread ?



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