Re: IBM 390
Woha Phillip, I am impressed. I am trying to get used to this mailing
list, these are some of the responses that I tried to post earlier. Is
this showing up on the list????
Sid Sorenson wrote:
>
> Hello again, I am new at this.
>
> I replied to the E-Mail, and I didn't realize it would automatically
> post to the mailing list, so here is a copy of what I sent to
> Treacy@debian.org.
>
> I fully realize that there is no way linux can get the same throughput
> from a 390 that OS/390 gets. I have been around both mainframes and Unix
> machines for some time and I am intimately aware of the power and
> flexability of a purely Mainframe OS in a production environment.
> Buttttt, I talked the boss into letting me play with this thing till it
> breaks. This is an F12 and we are replacing it with an F55 in Q4. I was
> just trying to see if anyone wants to tinker as well.
>
> We have to wait a while, the box may become available as early as
> August, but it will definately be availabe late November. Mantenance
> runs out December 30 1999, and my boss says I can play with it and drop
> a line into it from the Internet until it breaks.
>
> Philip R Jaenke has expressed an intrest, but if I remember right, the
> Power PC processors were used in the 370 line. I can check on that
> though.
>
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>
> Subject: Re: IBM 390
> Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 21:54:35 +0000
> From: Sid Sorenson <sids1@flash.net>
> To: "James A. Treacy" <treacy@debian.org>
> References: <[🔎] 36F933F1.5876D415@flash.net> <[🔎] 19990324152618.B647@debian.org>
>
> "James A. Treacy" wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 24, 1999 at 06:50:25PM +0000, Sid Sorenson wrote:
> > > The company I am working for has an ES9000 9121 Model 742 running the
> > > 390 instruction set comming off of lease 4th quarter of this year. The
> > > buyout is around $1.00 so my boss just asked me if Linux runs on the
> > > machine. OS390 is very expensive, so we probably won't be able to
> > > justify running it on the box after 3rd or 4th quarter this year.
> > >
> > > I have 2 questions. Is there or is there going to be a Debian port that
> > > will run on this archetecture??
> > >
> > > Assuming that the answer to that question is no, is there anyone out
> > > there willing to help port Debian to it???
> > >
> > The big question is whether the kernel supports it. I doubt this is
> > the case. Once the kernel supports the architecture and there is a
> > mechanism to bootstrap the thing, then adding most of the non-graphical
> > programs shouldn't be too bad.
> >
> > Jay Treacy
> Any idea what it would take to get the kernel to suport it? I figured
> the approach would be to get gas working for that archetecture and then
> get gcc up. The next thing I thought whuld be needed was a tftp loader
> so the box could be IPL'd That would probably have to be written to tape
> and loaded from there. From there, the kernel should at least compile.
> tftp should allow us to load a kernel and see how it dies.
>
> I was thinking of dropping a vpn into a PC running 2.1 on the same
> network and making that and the 390 available on the net. The pipe would
> be small (Probably a 56K modem) but it would be accessible for people to
> hack on.
--- Begin Message ---
Hello again, I am new at this.
I replied to the E-Mail, and I didn't realize it would automatically
post to the mailing list, so here is a copy of what I sent to
Treacy@debian.org.
I fully realize that there is no way linux can get the same throughput
from a 390 that OS/390 gets. I have been around both mainframes and Unix
machines for some time and I am intimately aware of the power and
flexability of a purely Mainframe OS in a production environment.
Buttttt, I talked the boss into letting me play with this thing till it
breaks. This is an F12 and we are replacing it with an F55 in Q4. I was
just trying to see if anyone wants to tinker as well.
We have to wait a while, the box may become available as early as
August, but it will definately be availabe late November. Mantenance
runs out December 30 1999, and my boss says I can play with it and drop
a line into it from the Internet until it breaks.
Philip R Jaenke has expressed an intrest, but if I remember right, the
Power PC processors were used in the 370 line. I can check on that
though.
--- Begin Message ---
"James A. Treacy" wrote:
>
> On Wed, Mar 24, 1999 at 06:50:25PM +0000, Sid Sorenson wrote:
> > The company I am working for has an ES9000 9121 Model 742 running the
> > 390 instruction set comming off of lease 4th quarter of this year. The
> > buyout is around $1.00 so my boss just asked me if Linux runs on the
> > machine. OS390 is very expensive, so we probably won't be able to
> > justify running it on the box after 3rd or 4th quarter this year.
> >
> > I have 2 questions. Is there or is there going to be a Debian port that
> > will run on this archetecture??
> >
> > Assuming that the answer to that question is no, is there anyone out
> > there willing to help port Debian to it???
> >
> The big question is whether the kernel supports it. I doubt this is
> the case. Once the kernel supports the architecture and there is a
> mechanism to bootstrap the thing, then adding most of the non-graphical
> programs shouldn't be too bad.
>
> Jay Treacy
Any idea what it would take to get the kernel to suport it? I figured
the approach would be to get gas working for that archetecture and then
get gcc up. The next thing I thought whuld be needed was a tftp loader
so the box could be IPL'd That would probably have to be written to tape
and loaded from there. From there, the kernel should at least compile.
tftp should allow us to load a kernel and see how it dies.
I was thinking of dropping a vpn into a PC running 2.1 on the same
network and making that and the 390 available on the net. The pipe would
be small (Probably a 56K modem) but it would be accessible for people to
hack on.
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