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Re: Device detection?



No crap, dont think I know that? Im saying there is a *small* amount of
hardware which it is perfectly safe to probe. And for modules like this it
would be *ok* to do so.

On Tue, Mar 09, 1999 at 09:54:27PM -0500, Zephaniah E. Hull wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 09, 1999 at 08:45:02PM -0600, Stephen Crowley wrote:
> > That's not what im talking about. There are some modules which work
> > just fine when you modprobe them, psaux comes to mind. And i'm sure
> > there are others. Im not suggestting scanning for *everything* just
> > stuff that is fairly simple to detect.
> 
> No, you don't understand the problem...
> 
> Its what else MIGHT be at the ports your poking at which would not take
> nicely to being poked at..
> 
> We have no way of knowing what could be there, and if it will crash the
> system, often it /will/ crash the system, so we really can't probe
> safely..
> 
> Zephaniah E. Hull.
> > 
> > On Tue, Mar 09, 1999 at 09:14:42PM -0500, Brandon Mitchell wrote:
> > > On Tue, 9 Mar 1999, Stephen Crowley wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Tue, Mar 09, 1999 at 07:37:49PM +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
> > > > > Previously Stephen Crowley wrote:
> > > > > > Yes, I was wondering if it would be possible to do a brute
> > > > > > force scan for some older legacy hardware. Just cycle through
> > > > > > the i/o and irq ports for some commonly used hardware. Some
> > > > > > devices might lock up on this though, so they would have to be
> > > > > > installed manually.
> > > > > 
> > > > > No way, this will certainly crash lots of systems..
> > > > 
> > > > Of course, that's why I said it should only be used on devices
> > > > which wont lock up systems.
> > > 
> > > But how do you auto detect a device that locks up your system when
> > > you probe for it?  This is the reason for windows throwing you into
> > > safe mode, no auto detection because you probably crashed from a
> > > misguided auto detect.  I prefer linux's way of telling the kernel
> > > what you have.  But, I guess someone could make a package that just
> > > mod-probes the heck out of your system with every option until you
> > > crash or the modprobe succeeds.
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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