Re: Gnome to be removed from debian?
- To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ualberta.ca>
- Cc: Havoc Pennington <hp@mcs.net>, Adam Heath <doogie@debian.org>, Stephen Crowley <crow@debian.org>, Ossama Othman <othman@cs.wustl.edu>, Debian Developer's List <debian-devel@lists.debian.org>
- Subject: Re: Gnome to be removed from debian?
- From: Stephen Crowley <crow@debian.org>
- Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 15:22:24 -0600
- Message-id: <[🔎] 19990212152224.D20418@stephenc.wf.net>
- Mail-followup-to: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ualberta.ca>, Havoc Pennington <hp@mcs.net>, Adam Heath <doogie@debian.org>, Stephen Crowley <crow@debian.org>, Ossama Othman <othman@cs.wustl.edu>, Debian Developer's List <debian-devel@lists.debian.org>
- In-reply-to: <[🔎] Pine.LNX.3.96.990212133131.29857B-100000@Wakko.deltatee.com>; from Jason Gunthorpe on Fri, Feb 12, 1999 at 01:42:01PM -0700
- References: <[🔎] Pine.BSF.3.95.990212134957.6484I-100000@Venus.mcs.net> <[🔎] Pine.LNX.3.96.990212133131.29857B-100000@Wakko.deltatee.com>
On Fri, Feb 12, 1999 at 01:42:01PM -0700, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
>
> On Fri, 12 Feb 1999, Havoc Pennington wrote:
>
> > I'm sorry but it is simply not acceptable to gripe about bugs in alpha
> > software. Especially *free* alpha software. Reporting them is fine,
> > griping is not.
> >
> > Even though I'm quite sure you're right that this has been broken in some
> > of the tarballs.
>
> Why exactly are we distributing what amounts to weekly snapshots in the
> main distribution? Maybe you guys should lobby for a snapshots dist for
> truely unstable stuff like this.
>
> It is really lame to have a working X app, upgrade to potato and find it
> stops working and there is no fix available because some gnome guy doesn't
> bother with alpha shared library versions.
>
> I would almost propose that we disallow 'alpha' libraries from entering
> the main distribution, perhaps providing some other venues for them (like
> experimental was supposed to be). If the upstream author cannot be
> bothered to keep the soname rational then I don't see why we should bother
> to include it in our primary distribution.
>
> That said, if amongst the gnome packagers they come up with a
> forwards/backwards compatible set of libraries and applications from a
> given snapshot then that as a whole could migrate over into potato. If
> necessary the gnome packagers would tweak sonames to achieve this (it is
> after all alpha software)
I see no reason why we would need to do this, as someone said earlier it
would be possible to avoid the problem with versioned depends. Besides, it's
called unstable for a reason, brokenness is a common thing. The main problem
I see here is package maintainers not recompiling packages when new libs
come out.
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