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RFD : libg++/gcc/egcs upgrades needed for libc6 (READ ME)



(James--I am cc'ing this to debian-devel.  Hope you don't mind...)

James Troup wrote:

> I'm not trying to be argumentative, I just genuinely don't understand
> this urgent need to switch compilers.

I'm pretty sure this was brought up in debian-devel.  Check the archives
for subjects matching the one on this message.


> Welp, I'll start a discussion about it on debian-68k and with Andreas
> and see what he says.  However, Jes (head m68k kernel blokey, and
> single-handed creator of Redhat-m68k (in like 1/12 of the time it's
> taken Debian/m68k to get where it is)), has publicly stated that "a
> distribution compiling things with egcs is broken".  :-(

Are you seriously telling me that the m68k leaders are publicly
repudiating egcs?  I personally think any distribution compiling things
with 2.8 is more broken, but since Jes is a linux.god and I'm not, his
opinion probably holds a lot more weight.  :-(

Right now I'm rather glad my initial egcs upload got rejected.  I'm very
disturbed by this information.

Events have given me a chance to rethink my decision.  I'm currently
waiting for gcc 2.8.1 and egcs 1.0.2 to appear.  If 2.8.1 will compile
the kernel (through behavior or documentation changes ;), I will consider
it back in the running.  I won't ship a compiler with debian which can't
compile the kernel.

Fellow developers, I call for one last show of hands.  Since the decision
I wanted to make has been cast into serious doubt, I throw this topic to
the floor again.  I would especially love to hear from non-intel and
non-m68k people on the relative merits of these compilers for their
architectures.

It's not a trivial decision.  gcc currently has more aggressive
optimization, but is more dangerous for exactly that reason.  egcs is, I
believe, the future; the push for gcc 3.0 will probably happen there.
But many people will regard this as a fault, not a virtue.  gcc 2.8 will
not significantly change, and might be considered "safer".  I like the
egcs development model, and think that using it as our default compiler
would give them a lot of moral support.

Speak soon or forever hold your peace...

--Galen



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