>>>>> "Jules" == Jules Bean <jmlb2@hermes.cam.ac.uk> writes: Jules> As I count them, I am the third second. As an original seconded, I'm also seconding this. -- Stephen --- Perl is really designed more for the guys that will hack Perl at least 20 minutes a day for the rest of their career. TCL/Python is more a "20 minutes a week", and VB is probably in that "20 minutes a month" group. :) -- Randal Schwartz