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Re: Removing Gnome [was: Removing Packages in Slink for Debian 2.1]



On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 04:02:41PM -0500, Stephen Crowley wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 at 08:32:02AM -0400, Brian White wrote:
> > > What do you think we should do with the Gnome stuff?
> > > 
> > > The Gnome 0.30 stuff is still under rather heavy development.  The
> > > current packages in Slink are pretty much alpha-quality.  Lots of
> > > things don't work.  It sounds like there will probably be a 1.0
> > > release coming up in a few months that will be thoroughly tested and
> > > stable.
> > > 
> > > I'm not sure if it's a good idea to release them as a part of a
> > > "stable" distribution, as they really aren't.  There aren't any
> > > guarantees that the stuff that runs today is going to run tomorrow.
> > 
> > I would agree with you.  They should probably be removed from slink
> > at the time of the freeze.  Do you have a list of these packages?
> 
> That is ridiculous, there is no reason to remove gnome before the freeze, if you
> dont like it dont use it. There are several programs that wont run without it,
> including GtkICQ which is about the only usuable icq replacement available (if
> you dont count those crappy console ones)

IMHO it is not appropriate to ship beta software under the guise of
release software.  If it is really desirable to ship gnome, it sould
be categorized as ALPHA and installed only when a user explicitly
requests it.  

I think that keeping it on the CD is spurious because the CD
represents what we know works.  Packages that don't work can be
downloaded from the FTP servers by the people who want to fuss with
them.  Gnome is high profile because it has fancy screenshots.  Users
who see the packages and install them with the idea that they work
will not be treated with the high standard of quality Debian shows
elsewhere. 


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