Re: Debian i386 freeze
Hi,
I had been staying out of this debate, but this really got my
goat (what is the etymology and history of _that_ phrase?).
>>"David" == David Welton <davidw@gate.cks.com> writes:
David> I guess the thing that irks me to some degree is that we seem
David> to do the 'cover our butt' thing rather than really get to the
David> bottom of a lot of these legal issues.
You want to take it to a moral level? Morality is a personal
thing (I would be opposed to KDE on purely moral grounds, but that is
me). However, there _are_ other issues involved, and liability should
not be taken lightly.
And why should we really be trying to get to the bottom of
this for the sake of a non-free piece of software that is not even a
part of debian (or software that depends on something like that)?
David> It's kind of irritating seeing problems that don't get
David> resolved,
You just want swift resolution? Fine. Let us just throw out
KDE and relating things, and poof. Problem resolved. No way can we be
violating icences if we do not distribute the software in
contention. And we have a distrivution that is more free.
David> and, because of the legal guessing of some programmers, we end
David> up doing one thing, whereas others do another (Calder and SUSE
David> will distribute KDE).
So, the whole world is not identical, and there are
differences. Your point?
David> I don't like seeing problems go unanswered like this. I wish
David> we could do more to determine things with certainty one way or
David> another.
Yup, and I would like to end world hunger, global warming, and
strife. Unless you get a lawyer for every jurisdiction we may be
sued in, and they are sure of the stances, you shall never have
this. Why are we doing this for something that is not part of Debian
in the first place?
Also, I like my house. I do not like KDE enough to even dream
of putting it at risk in a law suit.
David> but.. in a lot of these cases, my desire to resolve problems
David> wins out over my dislike of non-free stuff...
As I said, resolution is easy -- drop the KDE packages. They
are not part of Debian.
The problem comes from trying to deal with things that are
borderline free (borderline enough for us to be having a raging
discussion about this) for the sake of our users.
manoj
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