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Re: A project to provide a nicer GUI for installing debian ?



Joseph Carter <knghtbrd@earthlink.net> writes:

> There was a couple messages about live filesystems and other exotic and
> non-traditional methods of running Debian on -user.  I'm investigating a Zip
> disk-based super-rescue disk and will be happy to share my experience found
> with building that with a project to do the same kind of thing for a CD-ROM. 
> It's a little harder since one is a RW media with enough space but not lots
> of it and the other is media with lots of space and none of it writable.

On a zip you can install a normal Linux system. 100 MB are enough for
a client or rescue system.

> This would cost about 100 megs to have all the X servers installed I
> suspect.  Do we really want that much?  Maybe we should consider a 2.2.x

I had a System on a zip with 3 X severs. After deleting unwanted stuff 
I got it down to 30 MB on a zip or a 13 MB gz file. If one is carefull 
what to include one doesn't even need the 100 MB.

> solution and build it around GGI?  Libggi can already run many places
> including the newest 2.1.x kernels' fbcon (which broke the kernels nicely,
> but of course will be fixed..)  Under GGI you'd need one X server and the
> config of the whole thing is lots easier.

How much hardware is supported by ggi and in what resolutions?

> I don't think we want to change the whole installation for slink do we?  I'd
> rather it wait for 3.0 personally where we'll likely have things like glibc
> 2.1 and GGI to make things a little cleaner and easier (for users and
> developers!)  If I had to configure X just to install Debian I'd have not
> tried to install Debian.  I had Debian installed in a couple hours.  It was
> 3 months before I got X figured out enough to install it and I still can't
> effectively use it because of the font sizes.

Since a live filesystem would be only possible on CD's (100 MB are to
much to download just for installation) or as a rescue System build by 
a Package its only possible to provide it as a second choice. It
should not replace the normal bootdisks, at least not until its down
to say 10 disks or so.

One could provide a minimal console live filesystem for installation
similar to the current one and an alternative big live filesystem with 
X. That would of cause mean that we need a gui that can run on console 
and X. (Exactly what is developed for the Dragon tools currently).

May the Source be with you.
			Mrvn


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