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Re: Paging Dan Quinlan



This whole thing is even stranger than that.

quinlan@pathname.com

is not on the distribution list for debian-testing. In fact there are no
addresses to that domain in the list.

I have no idea why murphy is trying to send these e-mails in the first
place, much less why they are causing bounces.

On another (possibly unrelated) issue, apparently the bellsouth ISP starts
bouncing mail from domains that send too many emails to their customers.
The bounce is such that the murphy server resends confirmation mail, but
doesn't inform me that the events have occured.

It seems, from other interactions with spam filters on servers, that mail
that does not arrive at its destination, due to the intervention of a spam
filter, fail to bounce mail back to the originator. I have had several
customers "go missing" and get back to me through other avenues. In both
cases the cause was a spam filter at the ISP hosting the customer.

Among other things, this has added to my conviction that there aren't any
technical solutions to social problems. That is, all technical solutions
have social side effects of the same order as the problem being solved.
The above example is a case in point.

On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 jdassen@wi.leidenuniv.nl wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 23, 1998 at 11:58:57AM -0400, Dale Scheetz wrote:
> > I have been getting bounced mail from the testing mailing list sent to Dan
> > Quinlan. Can anyone verify that he has indeed left the project, or give me
> > a new address for him?
> 
> http://www.pathname.com/fhs/ still has a mailto quinlan@pathname.com .
> 
> penguin ray 8:58 ~> mx pathname.com
> pathname.com            MX      10 proton.pathname.com
> pathname.com            MX      200 freya.yggdrasil.com
> penguin ray 8:58 ~> telnet proton.pathname.com 25
> Trying 204.145.147.37...
> Connected to proton.pathname.com.
> Escape character is '^]'.
> 220-proton Smail-3.2 (#2 1996-Nov-26) ready at Fri, 24 Apr 1998 00:00:06 -0700 (PDT)
> 220 ESMTP supported
> EXPN quinlan
> 250 "|IFS=' '&& exec /usr/bin/procmail -f- || exit 75 quinlan"
> QUIT
> 221 proton closing connection
> 
> So as far as I can tell, quinlan@pathname.com should work.
> 
> HTH,
> Ray
> -- 
> Cyberspace, a final frontier. These are the voyages of my messages, 
> on a lightspeed mission to explore strange new systems and to boldly go
> where no data has gone before. 
> 
> 

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