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Re: essential packages and Pre-Depends



Santiago Vila <sanvila@unex.es> writes:

> Please, define "extremely essential" and why should not we put the
> Pre-Depends on essential packages.

[ Since I brought this term up, I suppose I should explain it ]

libc5 user does: `dpkg -iEG gzip_*.deb ed_*.deb libc6_*.deb'. dpkg
unpacks gzip, tries to spawn gzip to unpack ed and fails (gzip is
linked against libc6 and libc6 is not yet unpacked).  dpkg is is hosed
and dies.  QED, gzip must Pre-Depend on libc6 to avoid the above.
Show me the same thing WRT to e.g. procps.

[...]

> > It clearly states in policy that the use of Pre-Depends *must* be
> > discussed and consensus reached on debian.devel before being
> > used[1],
> 
> I thought this was for ordinary packages, not for essential
> packages.

That's not what policy says; and policy is what policy says, not what
Sanitago Vila Doncel thinks.

You may or may not be right about Pre-Depends; I don't know or care
too much, what does annoy the hell out of me, however, is you _yet
again_ trying to get a policy implemented via the bug tracking system
(Debian's equivalent of "bomb your way to the ballot box"), you've
done it lots of time in the past and it's highly offensive.  Please
stop.  If you think these packages should have Pre-Depends, discuss it
on debian.devel *THEN* file bugs, not the other way round.

-- 
James


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