As I told netgod, I think that we should hold off until .14. E is just in too much of a state of flux to spend a few weeks making everything perfect and then going back to do it all over again. Lets see what .14 does and go from there. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to debian-devel-request@lists.debian.org . Trouble? e-mail to templin@bucknell.edu .