Re: Debian 2.0 release requirements
aqy6633@acf5.nyu.edu (Alex Yukhimets) wrote on 09.01.98 in <[🔎] E0xqpSB-0000aT-00@alex.y.dyndns.com>:
> > Moin Alex!
> >
> > AY> I would like to question the need for this requirement.
> >
> > ???
>
> Aren't you questioning my right to do that? :)
No, but it hardly seems reasonable to question this requirement.
> > AY> While this can be of importance to some users, it can be quite
> > AY> annoying to others.
> >
> > ??? Please remember, a lot of languages need 8 bit clean programs. Non 8
> > bit clean programs are very bad.
>
> True. Many users need support for the language other than English.
> Some of that users need 8-bit clean programs AND still some additional
> customization. Some languages even have many optionas as to customization.
> (Take Russian - several possible encodings AND keyboard layouts).
> For some languages it is even not enough to have 8-bit clean programs.
So? All this says that we need 8-bit-clean software.
> You can't satisfy all users anyway. In addition, I would hate to be
> able to switch to "russian" keyboard mode (by mistake) and enter some
> letters which look just like English ones in the editor I use for
> _programming_.
OTOH, many people'd be upset not to be able to insert comments using those
russian letters. And they'd be right.
> > AY> What it means is saying "good-bye" to clean
> > AY> ascii e-mail, etc.
> >
> > ???
>
> Yes. I don't like when I see 8-bit charachters. In my
> "non-internationalized" configuration they look like "<F23>"
> highlighted (or something like that). So?
So what you really don't like is non-8-bit-clean software. That's the one
that displays "<F23>".
> > AY> What is more important, *some* utilities,
> > AY> "less" most notably, *shouldn't* be 8-bit clean.
> >
> > Why? I would like to see German Umlaute.
>
> Sure, but I would like to be able to do "less <binary file>" safely.
> ("more" is not safe for this).
Guess what? I can see those umlauts in less, and I can also safely do less
<binary file>.
I get the impression that 8 bit clean doesn't mean what you think it
means.
> Finally, the only thing I am trying to tell is that it is probaly not
> very wise to put as a requirement for *every* package to be 8-bit
> clean. (Note my point with the editor used for programming). I would
Actually, I think it would be very unwise not to, and you actually gave no
good reason to believe otherwise.
MfG Kai
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