Re: sendmail/smail with relaying blocks?
On Fri, 9 May 1997, Craig Sanders wrote:
> On Thu, 8 May 1997, Mark Baker wrote:
>
> > In article <[🔎] 199705081601.SAA00338@mvmap66.ciw.uni-karlsruhe.de>,
> > Thomas Koenig <ig25@mvmap66.ciw.uni-karlsruhe.de> writes:
> >
> > I don't know what's in Tim's debian package though, as I was already
> > running exim when I upgraded to debian and used my old configuration
> > file.
My exim package currently allows relaying; as Craig points out below, what
you allow relaying to/from is extremely site-dependent. I think it is
more sensible to allow relaying by default; without it remote mail from
Eudora and the like will fail, and I'd rather it worked by default. I
have only just restricted mail relaying on my largest exim site (an SG
Origin 200 machine with >1200 accounts) since relaying abuse by spammers
has only just become a significant problem. As Mark suggested below, most
use temporary accounts and the usual ISP's SMTP server. I think most
spammers are probably morons who don't actually have a clue how mail
works.
> > I think you'll find most small time spammers just use their own ISP's
> > mail host anyway, until they lose their accounts; the big ones get a
> > leased line from AGIS :(
> As far as i can tell, if you block relaying by IP address, you have
> to list every individual IP address in the LocalIP file. You can't
> just specify a network address and a netmaks (e.g. 192.168.1.0/24)
In exim you can restrict it to certain networks. For example, my SG site
restricts relaying to hosts in 131.111, like so:
sender_net_accept_relay = "131.111.0.0/255.255.0.0"
> 2. do we (debian) distribute a 'Spammers' and 'SpamDomains' file with the
> package? what are the legal ramifications of doing that?
That's unfeasible. The list grows too fast. We try to maintain one here
in Cambridge, and I have long since given up trying to keep up. It grows
at about half a dozen addresses a day, and quite frankly I have more
important things to do with my time. My exim configuration does look up a
list of the worst offenders though:
sender_reject_recipients = "lsearch;/usr/local/lib/exim/rejectlist"
and I also reject mail from certain hosts and networks entirely:
sender_net_reject_recipients = 205.199.212.0/255.255.255.0
sender_host_reject_recipients = 204.127.131.33:38.8.32.2:38.8.45.2:38.8.200.2:20
6.142.102.1
One of those is (surprise!) interramp.com.
Tim.
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