Re: Proxy server policy [was Re: gated]
On Thu, Dec 11, 1997 at 12:15:11PM -0500, Charles Briscoe-Smith wrote:
> Jason Gunthorpe <email@example.com> wrote:
> >On 10 Dec 1997, Charles Briscoe-Smith wrote:
> >> ...and so on. I'm not sure that you can ever have a scheme that will work
> >> for -all- the wierd and wonderful proxies, caches and firewalls out there.
> >> (This cache is something that was knocked up locally, I think. It's
> >> integrated with the HENSA mirrors, but fetches updates to individual
> >> files on demand, too.)
> >Yes, this is most unusual. If it was created locally I would suggest you
> >use something more 'normal' for instance:
> Knocked up locally, but not by me, I'm afraid. And since it now
> certainly has hundreds (or maybe thousands) of users, I suspect it would
> be impractical to change it now...
> My point was simply that there are sure to be many different proxy
> configurations, so you can't hope to support all of them out of the box.
> It might well be possible to support all the popular ones, but there
> ought to be a way of customising for strange setups like ours.
My original point was that at the moment you need to configure various
things to identical strings. If you have a proxy which is configured as
"username@proxy:8013", but program "freds-ftp" doesn't support the
"username@" bit, then tough - we havn't broken anything, we just havn't
fixed it either.
We should also standardize the environment variables that are used. Once
again, if the program doesn't support environment variables, tough -
although of course maintainers are encouraged to "fix" the programs :-)
If people could be kind enough to email sample proxy configurations to me
(ones that are supported by some non-customized program), then I'll come up
with a proposed scheme. I'll include some sample code to make it easier for
maintainers to convert a program.
Alternatively, how about doing something like update-menus? Maintainers
could make "update-lynx", "update-wget" etc programs and then by executing
an overall "update-proxies" program, the various lines in /etc/program.conf
or ~/.program.conf could be changed.
Or do people think the whole thing, or even this entire email, are a waste
of time? I mean - how many people want this sort of thing? Or is it just
me with a choice between a dodgy proxy and a dead slow one :-)
To start off, here are some that we need to support (any mistakes?)
no_proxy host.domain.dom, more.debian.org
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