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Re: Packaging helpers (Re: debstd-like tool for those who don't want to use debmake)



On Tue, 23 Sep 1997, Joey Hess wrote:

> Vincent Renardias wrote:
> > IMHO, 3 packaging helpers (debmake, joey's & yours) are 2 too many!
> > I love to have the choice between several softwares when it comes to www
> > browsers, mailers, etc... But for something as critical as our packaging
> > system, each developper should not have to choose between N+1 helpers. It
> > will only make things more complicated for developpers.
> 
> Well I see where you're coming from - when you take over maintainece of a
> package that is packages with debmake, if you don't use debmake, that is not
> a good thing. More tools just makes that situation more likely.

Exactly! (I know debmake, but I not too confortable with several packaging
helpers around (each of them having their own set of features, bugs, ...))

> Still, I think all these tools are still in their infancy, and I think that
> diversity is good just to try out different ideas and see how well they
> work. We've have debstd for a year, and problems with its design slowly
> became apparent..

I agree, we need to *TRY* these tools. I *WOULDN'T* like developpers to be
encouraged to use them for releasing their stable packages.

We do need a good helper anyway. So instead of developping 5 of them
thinking "we'll se later...", why not discussing NOW about it and starting
working on something that will be THE Debian packaging helper?
It worked for the admintool, why not this one?

> > I personaly think the solution involving automake is the best one, and it
> > should be distributed along with the policy manual, so it will be easier
> > for us to have our packaging helper "in sync" with the policy.
> > (install debian-policy 2.3.0.0 and the helper will generate 2.3.0.0
> > compliant packages. Question of the day: Which version of debmake/joey's
> > tool would you need to make 2.3.0.0 compliant packages? (probably only the
> > tools' authors know)).
> 
> It's listed in the man pages for each debhelper tool which version of the
> policy manual they comply with. (No, I haven't upploaded the version with
> man pages yet, I want to get multiple package support working 1st.)

Documenting a program is unfortunatly NOT a way to get it used correctly.
_(;

	Cordialement,

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