I'd prefer you establish communications with Guy if it is at all possible. He's been doing a good job, and most likely has some good reasons for the delay. I'd rather not alienate him. Thanks Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP Bruce@Pixar.com 510-215-3502 Finger bruce@master.Debian.org for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3