Re: Questions regarding the base system
clameter@waterf.org said:
> liw>Linux users aren't Unix hackers. They must be taught at once that
> liw>logging in as root is exceptional.
> That is one of the aspects of
> the debian project that worries me. People are forced to behave the
> way you want them to although there might be valid reasons not to do
> as you force the user to.
> On all my systems that I have installed here on campus I later remove
> the user because the user interferes with NIS or is a security hole
> since the system should only be accessed in exceptional cases by
> system administration.
Just a thought here: Wouldn't it be possible to address this type of problem
with one or several `power user' support packages, which know how to undo some
of the newbie safety features? That way, the base system stays simple and
clean. And at the same time, we can support alternative, advanced
configurations? Some developments, like the Joost's nfsroot package or Lars'
cfgtool seem to lead more or less towards that direction.
Cheers,
Lukas
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From: Kenneth MacDonald <kenny@ed.ac.uk>
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Dear All,
This is a followup to my earlier message about dialup connections in
general.
I'm using the `get-news` script which comes with suck_3.2.1-2 to
exchange news between my university's nntp server and my local inn
setup. There are a couple of points I'd like to raise about this
combination.
First of all, inn is marking the incoming (sucked) articles for
outgoing back to the remote server next time I ppp up. These are of
course rejected by the remote server, being duplicates of what it
already has, but this negotiation takes a significant amount of time.
Is this something wrong with my inn setup? Or would it be worthwhile
to filter the outgoing news file though grep '$LOCALHOST' (or
whatever) to remove the articles which originated elsewhere? This of
course, would break if you were spooling news from several local
clients.
Secondly, I'd either like to see /usr/sbin/put-news made a conffile,
or changed to read its sed commands from a conffile in /etc/suck.
I've set it up to change my local 'From:' address to something
meaningful to the outside world. An ugly hack, but managable for a
handful of users. This may even be worth a bug report against suck,
but I haven't checked if there's a more recent suck package out yet
(upstream suck 3.3.0 is out).
Best wishes,
Kenny.
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