Bug#4661: gnats.conffiles has wrong permissions
Package: gnats
Version: 3.2-3
/var/lib/dpkg/info/gnats.conffiles has permissions 640. It should be 644.
Susan Kleinmann
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From: Juergen Menden <menden@informatik.tu-muenchen.de>
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On 30 Sep 1996, Ullrich von Bassewitz wrote:
>
> This is my installation story, maybe it's
> of interest for you.
sure it is. :-)
i pick the points of your post which i have experience with,
don't think that the other points are not just as well valid.
> Creating the installation disks
> Debian needs more disks than the distributions, I have handled until now.
> Other distributions are able to install from NFS, even the base system.
> With debian, you need to install the base system from floppy disk, after
> that, you may access a cdrom or a NFS server (but: see below regarding the
> installation of the NFS module).
i consider this as a number one problem. the solution to this
seems somewhat simple, even though the work to be done might
be real hard. the problem is, that dselect doesn't use the
--root flag of dpkg (if dpkg can now handle the problems with
that).
given that this is solved we could even install the base system
directly from cdrom, eventually useing a ram disk image as root
device.
> Selecting the language and keyboard mapping
> Language selection in other distributions (Suse for example) is done by a
> list of the available countries. After selecting language and keyboard
> mapping, an input box is presented where the user can test his keyboard and
> cancel the selection if necessary.
a very good idea, makes things much easier for most users.
i think this is the kbd package, right? Hi dominik :-))
> Selecting the packages
>
> [ taken from another part of the mail, but fit's perfectly here ]
> * Dselect has many problems. It should have a menu selection, the commands
> are very non intuitive and the screen layout is confusing.
i think we needs a full redesign of dselects user interface.
some suggestions:
- the help screen should not pop up. i mean _never_, unless someone
want's to see it and presses '?'
eventually dselect might be called with an option --first-time
(or some heuristic with similar meaning) and pop's up the
help screen _once_
- return should mean the same thing as cursor down. to install
the packages 'i' is more apropriate.
- after pressing 'i' the dependencies are checked. problems with
the dependencies are shown by the resolve-screen, just as
nowadays, but without the help screen.
- if i press 'i' again, i mean 'install'. it's rather boring to
have the same unresolved dependencies pop up again and again,
thereby removing my selections ever and ever. :-)
IMHO it's better to pop up a box asking 'recheck dependencies
or overwrite them?" (or something similar).
even if i recheck the dependencies, my selections should not be
changed. either i have selected the sugestions of dselect in the
prior round in which case dselect has no new sugestions.
otherwise the sugestions of dselect didn't find my ok, so it
shouldn't try to force me it's thoughts of a good installation.
> Another problem are dependencies with packages that are not included with
> debian Linux. Getting a message like "xyz needs abc - abc does not seem to
> be available" is somewhat frustrating.
hmm, just a thought: couldn't we merge all the packages files
and include a field, in which distribution a package lives?
this way dselect could response: xyz needs abc of the non-free
distribution, which doesn't seem to be available.
> Bottom line:
> The debian distribution is *not* recommended for beginners.
bad, but unfortunately true... :-(
> Before flaming me:
> This is not debian bashing! I asked the question "Is the debian distribution
> suitable for a beginner?", and the text above answers this question from my
> point of view.
thanks very much for it. your report is not positive but that's
not your fault. :-)
> I did not test any of the "advanced" features of the debian
> distribution like the upgradability.
well, at least this one you will like! :-))
jjm
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