>root:/root# echo --help >--help >root:/root# echo --version >--version You are getting the 'echo' built into your shell. '/bin/echo --version' works fine here... -- Richard W Kaszeta Graduate Student/Sysadmin bofh@bofh.me.umn.edu University of MN, ME Dept http://www.me.umn.edu/0h/home/kaszeta/www.html -- Sleep is a symptom of caffeine deprivation