OK! I submit. I was wrong. FAT is great for loading and booting floppies. I still maintain that it is a disaster for any serious OS as a storage medium. Even when we fake users and permissions. I am stubborn in a way :-) Simon P.S. Please ignore the below address and flame shimon@teleport.com. He receives and answers mail :-) Simon Shapiro Bullet Technologies, Inc. shimon@Bullet-Tech.com 13130 SW Haystack St. (503) 524-6631 Beaverton, OR 97005