Several mirror sites are *still* in a mess, even after repeated emails. At this point I think we can do one of two things: 1. Keep prodding them, phoning them up, &c &c &c &c - any volunteers ? (If it comes to this I'll deal with src.doc.ic.ac.uk.) 2. Move the whole of ftp.debian.org:/debian to /debian.real, and replace with an empty /debian containing only `README.vanished'. Leave for 3 days. Put it back. Ian.