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Re: Bug#943027: fretsonfire: Python2 removal in sid/bullseye

> Am 01.02.20 um 17:06 schrieb Steve Cotton:
> > On Sat, Feb 01, 2020 at 04:06:56PM +0100, Markus Koschany wrote:
> >> Please don't remove any games from Debian because of the Python 2
> >> removal and try to port the games to Python 3 instead. For instance

who should port these games? the upstream maintaintainers? maybe but
what if they are not developing the game anymore? the debian
maintainers? i dont think that's appropriate to ask that, as then even
more burden will fall on them (both keeping the package up to
standards *and* maintain the py3k port). so whos left? it appears

> >> Bernhard has done a lot of good porting work and ported several games to
> >> Python 3 already. Even if we don't succeed in porting all games to
> >> Python 3 in time for Debian 11, then we should just give people more
> >> time to realize the impact of the py2removal goal.

No. with this approach, nobody will do anything about py2removal and
we're gonna keep python2 around forever. you had more than a year,
nothing happen, it's time to be objective and realize there wont be a
savior for fretsonfire and it's time for Debian to drop it.

> >
> > Markus, the trouble with saying "give people more time" is that there's been
> > a py2removal bug open on Frets On Fire since October 2018. That's #912511,
> > from the python-pygame mass bug filing.
> We have one year left in this release cycle and you cannot expect that

no we dont. at some point in the next months the distribution will
freeze and we wont be able to make substantial progress.

> all Python 2 games will be ported to Python 3 at the same time or in a
> few months. There is no urgency at all to remove those games from
> Debian.

really? what about all the reverse dependencies that need to be kept
in the archive *just* for this antique softwares to remain usable? I,
for example, have 2 packages i cant remove because of fretsonfire; at
some point i'll have to make a decision, and most likely i'll favor my
own packages over a relic from 10+ years ago.

> It also does not matter how old a game is because games like
> fretsonfire are feature complete.

OMG LOL! did you look at the sourceforge page? there are literally
hundreds of bug reports and feature requests. year "feature complete".

> Please contribute by fixing those bugs
> for a change.

i sincerely hope this is not meant for me.

Please revisit your position to make the Debian distribution progress
towards the py2removal goal: dont be an obstacle, help instead.

Sandro "morph" Tosi
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