Will Ogre 1.8 remain in Jessie? (Was: The other packages)

[Olek <olek_nospam@suddenlinkmail.com>]

Does anyone know if Ogre 1.8 will actually be removed from testing? If 
so, something needs to be done with ember. The newest version is written 
to build against Ogre 1.9 but it requires the upload of two libraries 
(and said upload would require permission from the release team at this 
point). It's POSSIBLE that the current version of ember would build 
correctly but it's extremely unlikely since upstream targeted Ogre 1.7 
and specifically lists 1.8 as the maximum supported version.

Stephen: you've been the primary maintainer on ember, what are your 
thoughts on the viability of these approaches? Would it be realistic for 
us to try hacking ember to build on Ogre 1.9?

On 10/25/2014 03:27 AM, Tobias Frost wrote:
> Am Samstag, den 25.10.2014, 01:39 -0500 schrieb Olek:
> > > Looking at mercator, I saw that this upload would also include an
> > > so-name bump. So I fear, its to late to upload to sid. Sorry, but this
> > > stricly spoken would need a transition, even if only a few packages are
> > > involved.
> > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2014/09/msg00002.html
> >
> > Oh, bother... :( You're right, of course, I was just so focused on the
> > freeze that I completely forgot that these are technically
> > transitions... even though there are only 2 packages that depend on them.
> >
> > The bad news is one of these packages is ember[1] which has a number of
> > issues that would be fixed by packaging the newest version... and that
> > newest version depends on the newer libraries. So hopefully this won't
> > cause excessively severe problems with ogre[2].
> >
> > > We can upload to experiment if you want.
> > >
> > > This is also true for atlas-cpp, looking at the diff..
> > > Again, experimental is no problem; it can't go to sid at this point of
> > > time.
> >
> > Sure, I can rewrite those library packages to go to experimental
> > instead. If they're not going into Jessie then they are a much lower
> > priority at this point. Please let me know if you have any feedback but
> > I'm going to focus on cyphesis in the meantime.
> >
> > -Olek
> >
> > [1] https://packages.qa.debian.org/e/ember.html
> > [2] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=760058
>
> I'd go through experimental. They also have to go through the NEW queue
> which complicates things. Especially now where the window of oportunity
> is so small. If not having the libraries is RC in some way, we can still
> consult the release team for an exception during the freeze (but should
> done soon, then

So what's the consensus from the Games Team (and from the people working 
on Ogre)? Do we need to talk to the release team about this or can ember 
remain in Jessie with Ogre 1.8?

Thanks in advance for the inputs!

-Olek