Moin! I investigated our lists a little bit. It is my understanding that the Debian project should serve mailing lists on lists.debian.org that help establishing and running the project. It is also my understanding that the lists served on this list server should be active. Depending on the topic of a list the number of subscribers range from a handful of people to several thousands. Concluding I believe that we should clean up our list server a little bit when lists expire, i.e. are no longer used. My investigation showed that there are quite some lists that are not used (anymore), but that have people subscribed. I watched the lists for about three weeks. There are lists that are of very low traffic which is intended, so they were ignored. So the following list only contains lists that have *no* traffic during the last three weeks and which I'd consider not very low traffic. If nobody objects, I'm going to remove these lists at some point in the near future: Name Subscribers debian-admintool >1,000 debian-autobuild >400 debian-bugs-reports >1,300 debian-ctte 170 debian-ctte-private 1 debian-devel-games 400 debian-dpkg-bugs 70 debian-freshmeat 890 debian-l10n-hellas 15 debain-partners 7 debian-pool 200 debian-snapshots 260 opensource-publicity 3 other-gnomehack 160 sourcedoc 2 lcs-eng 450 lsb-confcall 4 lsb-desktop 0 <--- !!!!! lsb-eng 25 lsb-vendor 70 spi-license-review 2 -------changes... I'm not sure if these lists serve their purpose. The description says that they should contain notices about uploaded binary-$(arch) packages for the stable distribution. However, I'm not sure if .changes files will be distributed over all relevant lists. Well, I'm quite sure it doesn't work, instead. The archive tells me that there were some mails distributed in march. However, both, uploads to stable and a new stable release (2.2r3) were done later. Thus I'm pondering if these lists have their reason to stay or not? Name Subscribers debian-all-changes 300 debian-alpha-changes 50 debian-arm-changes 50 debian-hurd-i386-changes 100 debian-i386-changes 170 debian-m68k-changes 25 debian-sparc-changes 40 There are even more debian-*-changes lists that have no traffic. The description says that they should serve notices about uploaded packages for the unstable $(arch) distribution, mostly from buildd's. Do no-messages imply that there is no buildd running but should or that the list is not needed anymore? Name Subscribers debian-devel-alpha-changes 30 debian-devel-arm-changes 30 debian-devel-hurd-i386-changes 130 debian-devel-i386-changes 190 debian-devel-powerpc-changes 60 Regards, Joey  1 real mail, other spam + unsubscribe  Well, mails are sent to the list frequently, but they are >400kB large, so they are not distributed by our list server. Also they are growing in size instead of being splitted. This requires a sane solution.  One single subscriber: Ian Jackson. Charter: "Private communication between tech committee members."  There has never been a proper debian-freshmeat repository and never will be, maintaining it would be a pain additionally. I'm pretty sure this list is fully expired.  The first and only mail on this list was from Joy, saying that he has renamed `hellas' into `greek' in the webwml tree. We're not providing personalized lists for maintainers one-shot-use, do we?  This list is not even mentioned in our lists overview...  The last valid mail was from June 20  Since when has hurd-i386 become stable? Not that I wouldn't like it but I guess this hasn't happen yet, thus there has never been a reason for this list to exist anyway. -- Never trust an operating system you don't have source for!
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