Re: Uploading new packages to Debian instead of Ubuntu [was Re: Skeletor?]
On 08/03/2010 06:49 PM, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> On Tue, 03 Aug 2010, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote:
>>> Most DDs are willing to perform sponsoring and, even better than that,
>>> there are packaging teams which I've found to be very welcoming to
>>> new contributors.
>> While it is true, that most DDs are willing to sponsor your package if
>> you ask them directly, it should not be hidden, that the debian-mentors
>> list / Requesting for sponsorship isn't scaling very well. Often
>> sponsorship request are repeated and no one picks them up.
>> As a side node, I as Debian Developer, found it quite demotivating to
>> get a sponsorship request mostly motivated by getting a package into
>> Ubuntu, as I consider them a waste of my time. I think it's similar
>> with other DDs.
Not at all. If it is useful to Debian, and if the sponsee is good
and a candidate for a Debian Maintainer, then by all means, sponsor.
I get quite some satisfaction myself from seeing packages
of mine used in Ubuntu.
> In the end, I really wish that we find motivated people to create that
> new and improved sponsorship service and I hope we can share the same service
> between both distributions, because a good package is a good package no matter
> where it ends up being uploaded.
I disagree somewhat. We are forming more and more teams and thus depersonalise
ourselves, are endangering us to do so. In my pre-DD times I was always
contacting DDs directly who were packaging something similar, and they
were always helpful and sponsoring. This is the way it should be, I think.
I still think that we need a "Debian phone number". Because people expect
that and they may be uncertain about their request and yet don't know whom
to ask. But we should then use our distributed community to our advantage
and become as personal or as colleagueish as possible.
So, yes, Ubuntu developers should be granted some means to upload to Debian.
If there is some committee accepting such reverse synchronisation requests,
then this should find partners on the Debian side whenever possible, not
just sponsors. And the DM status should aimed at, thus that the Ubuntu person
feels to become a part of the distribution as quickly as possible.