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Re: H/W upgrade for lists ? (was: Re: Cum Hungry Chick creampie videos ready to dnolwoad)

On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 02:40:56PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote:
> On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 01:08:02PM +1000, Matthew Palmer scribbled:
> > On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 04:14:28AM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote:
> > > How about not using spamassassin instead?
> > > http://www.nuclearelephant.com/projects/dspam/ - a much faster and accurate
> > > tool...
> > 
> > And, naturally, you have hard numbers to back up your claim, for situations
> > analogous to the Debian mailing lists.  Because it would be terrible to make
> > sweeping statements like that with no evidence.
> You see, I _would_ have numbers if DSPAM ran on the d.o lists. I don't feel
> like subscribing to all of them personally and testing that myself. But, as

You could subscribe to a few of the biggies and run it like it was on

> unsupported my statement might be, yours is the same - you haven't tested it

Statements I made:

* "you have hard numbers to back up your claim" -- sarcasm, which you
recognised.  I was making a very educated (and, as it turns out) entirely
accurate statement.  No evidence required.

* "it would be terrible to make sweeping statements ... with no evidence" --
might require some proof, but I think it stands fairly well on it's own, and
as a basis of scientific endeavour.  If you'd really like a detailed
treatise on why crapping on with no evidence isn't a good thing, please take
a first year science course at college and try it.  Academics are much
better at that sort of rant than me.

> either. So, the solution would be to actually give it a try (and yes, I'd
> love to take part in configuring it for a test on l.d.o, but I doubt I would
> get access to the lists config, so that point is moot) and see how bad/good

Have you asked?  You'd be *amazed* at what you can do when you ask.

> it works for debian. It doesn't even have to run on l.d.o itself, the mail
> could be reflected to a relatively idle machine to do the testing.

That's going to be the hard part - finding a fairly idle machine in the
Debian pool...

- Matt

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