Bug#877024: Modemmanager probing of unknown Devices
Le lundi, 30 octobre 2017, 14.06:01 h CET Ian Jackson a écrit :
> I can see why the TC might want to avoid making a final ruling without
> proper input from the maintainers.
> But, should I upload to experimental, and later, to sid, as I have
> proposed ? It's not quite clear whose permission I need. To some
> people I have already overstepped the mark.
>  Apparently referring the matter to the TC a mere 5 years after
> the maintainers rejected changing the behaviour is too hasty. I
> accept of course that the way I recently brought my renewed awareness
> of this problem to the attention of the maintainers wasn't ideal.
My personal take is that waiting only two days between saying "I'm likely to
escalate to the TC" and doing so [2,3] is quite pushy "against" the
maintainers who haven't had a reasonable chance to react, especially after two
years inactivity on a 5 year-old bug.
> The dev ref says "Have you geared the NMU towards helping the
> maintainer?" and it all seems rather awkward to me to claim I am
> "helping the maintainer" when AFAICT the maintainers are quite
> unenthusiastic about these proposals.
Claiming that they are unenthusiastic is far-reaching IMHO. We just don't know
what they think of the change, really. I wouldn't necessarily interpret the
removal from the maintainers' field as a statement of opinion on these
proposed changes, but much more about who the process went, and was handled by
the TC too.
Le lundi, 30 octobre 2017, 13.45:00 h CET Sam Hartman a écrit :
> Wou/ld it be reasonable for him to make an NMU to experimental, and then
> if there is no objection after testing to unstable?
> In parallel, it seems desirable to see if any of the maintainers are
The latter looks like a prerequisite to me, frankly. It seems to me from
reading the bug log again that a solution is being worked out by upstream; and
that this solution seems fine to the people who have intervened in this very
bug. So it looks like the solution is ahead, "just" not yet in a Debian
package. That bug exists in Debian for 5+ years, so I really don't see the
urgency for an NMU, and would much rather let the current maintainers include
the upstream version which includes the fix (and configure it appropriately)
when they see fit.