Bug#741573: Bug #741573:Process Approach vs Others

[Sam Hartman <hartmans@debian.org>]

>>>>> "Kurt" == Kurt Roeckx <kurt@roeckx.be> writes:

    Kurt> On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 09:19:07PM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote:
    >> [moving back to the bug, because we're starting to discuss the
    >> issue rather than a TC communications matter.]
    >> 
    >> 
    >> >>>>> "Bdale" == Bdale Garbee <bdale@gag.com> writes:
    Bdale> I hear you, I just don't have any idea what to do differently
    Bdale> on this specific issue in response to knowing how you feel
    Bdale> about it.
    >> 
    >> I made a specific proposal in #741573.  I'd be a lot happier if
    >> you'd say "No, I think we've already reached agreement that the
    >> policy team didn't have consensus., so we don't need to evaluate
    >> whether the process was followed."  I wouldn't agree with that,
    >> but sometimes people disagree with you.  I'm OK with that
    >> outcome.
    >> 
    >> If we've already agreed that the policy team didn't have
    >> consensus, my preference would be to ask the policy community
    >> whether they want us to take up the issue, rather than just
    >> asserting a decision from on high.  That is, we communicate to
    >> them that we believe that they didn't have consensus rather than
    >> just jumping to a conclusion.  I don't think we need to vote for
    >> that if we have internal rough consensus, although I'd be fine
    >> voting on that if we wish to do so.

    Kurt> I also feel that we should check that the policy change
    Kurt> process has been followed as documented or not.  So from
    Kurt> reading the policy bug, it seems some of the Policy Editors
    Kurt> think that there is a consensus but that Bill Allombert
    Kurt> doesn't agree that there is one.

    Kurt> The Policy Change Process does not document on how to handle
    Kurt> conflicts between the Policy Editors.

That's true, but  I proposed a way for the TC to resolve conflicts based
on our internal discussions of consensus and based on  my reading of the
policy process at
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?msg=497;bug=741573

Yes, there's some interpretation on the part of the TC in doing that.
However, 1) I think that's always part of our job and 2) we have a lot
of constitutional room in how we approach policy it being one of our
primary mandates.