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Bug#765803: Status of prompting / notification on upgrade for init system switch?

Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes:
> Russ Allbery writes:

>> Thanks, Tollef!  Okay, so there does appear to be a conflict here.  It
>> sounds like your primary technical concern, not addressed by Martin's
>> mail, is that getting the dependencies right to install systemd on
>> initial install but not upgrade to it are tricky and have a lot of
>> corner cases, and you feel like it's late in the release process to
>> make that change.

> That's not the impression I got from Tollef's mail.  I thought his
> concern was mostly bugs in systemd-shim.  Surely the question of
> the default can be addressed easily enough in the installer - it can
> just be told, explicitly, to install systemd.

It would be better to let Tollef speak for himself, so re-adding the
systemd mailing list, but I believe his message was addressing two
different issues: whether to switch init systems on upgrade, and the
dependencies on libpam-systemd (since I explicitly asked about that).  The
issue of bugs in systemd-shim came up in the latter context, and I replied
to that in that context.

Russ Allbery (rra@debian.org)               <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

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